Showing posts with label Terry DNA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Terry DNA. Show all posts

Friday, July 9, 2021

TERRY DNA ILLUSTRATED : A POSSIBLE WAY OF LOOKING AT THE TERRY FAMILY GROUPS IN EARLY DAY VIRGINIA


Terry-DNA

Recent DNA results indicate that the line of Jasper and Mary Morrison Terry, their son Josiah and Mary Lloyd and, possibly a Jasper who married a Margaret (their line DNA still to be proven) were of the Haplogroup of G-02. 

Three sons of Perry Co., IND John Terry (wife Esther Brown) (sons lines tested are Josiah of Onieda, TN; Wm, who died in Missouri wife Barbara Ennis, and John Jr, wife Nancy Ennis, who died in Arkansas), have show a Haplogroup of I-02. 

This means that -if that DNA return is consistent through the other children of John Terry, who is demonstrated through court documents and family records to be a son of Wm and Rachel Terry of Botetourt Co., Va then- these two lines (a) Jasper and Mary Morrison and (b) William and Rachel Terry - are not connected. This is borne out in the tendency of the two groups to cluster into different districts of the county of Botetourt (and Montgomery). 

The Terry-Morrison line cluster around Little River (Creek) branch of the Roanoke, in Capt. Easom's District for tax purposes and Wm and Miles Terry group (with others living with them probably) are repeatedly enumerated in Capt. Neeley's District for tax purposes and tend to be related to the waters of Black Run, a branch of the Roanoke River.ch of the Roanoke.

SW & Central Va –

I-02/I- 2a

PA, Botetourt, Montgomery, TN, KY, IND, ARK, MO Etc.

G-02

Central, Botetourt, Montgomery, Others

Unknowns

People not clearly associated with a family line; DNA will help clarify

East & Coast -

I-01

Orange, Pittsylvania, Halifax, Va; NC: SC, etc.

William Terry (1724-1792)

Jasper Terry (c1716, PA md Mary Hart. D. SC-?)+

Jasper Terry (wife Ruth)c1760)*

John Terry (1760-1842)

William Terry Jr (c1755-1825)

Miles Terry

 * - To be confirmed

+ - Theorized based on DNA and presence of his inlaws in early Augusta Co (Aron, Miles and other Hart family)

gen 1.Jasper Terry/Mary Morrison

gen 2.Josiah Terry/Mary Lloyd

gen 2. Jasper Terry/Margaret*

gen 3.Jasper Morrison Terry ;Arron Burr Terry

 


*- To be confirmed

Silas Terry

Elijah Terry

Jonathan Terry

William Terry 

(listed in 1819 will as sons of Jasper Terry wife Margaret)

Stephen Terry (b Scotland)

James Terry

John Terry

Stephen Terry

Champness Terry

Benjamin Terry

Nathanial Terry

William Terry

Joseph Terry

Zachariah Terry

Thursday, June 3, 2021

KEZIAH HALE TERRY: ORIGINAL MYSTERY WOMAN

About 20 years ago in the research into the TERRY family line of Botetourt County, Virginia came a claim that the presumed first wife of William Terry was a Keziah Hale Terry. Some mash the names of the second wife to create Keziah Rachael, Rachel Kezia, etc.

The claim is now chosen and added to trees with abandon and no citations as to the sources on which this claim is based included.

At about that same time, a claim of descent of this man from a early line of a James or John Tierry with a wife name Elizabeth Gale Pierpont and whose grave labels him a "gentleman" also appeared and the line was described as John to William I to William 2 of "Terry's Run, Orange Co., Va."and later Botetourt Co., Va. "Elmwood" (an interesting historical location in Roanoake that appears to have been settled by a distantly related eastern coastal area group of Terry's - but that is another story. The DNA reflects a large group of those coastal Terry's fall into a I-01 Haplogroup and the Roanoak groups fall into I-02/I-2a2 and one line in a G-02 group).

Once in Botetourt various legal and historic documents paint a picture of a man William Terry who arrived with a relative of some kind, Jasper Terry around 1744 in the area of Augusta County from which Botetourt County would be carved.

Further legal documents suggest his children to be eight named :

William Jr. with wife Patience Cooper. His will leaves money to son of Miles Terry

John and wife Esther Brown (descendants of this line fall within the I-2a2 haplogroup and have suggested links to William and Rachel Terry)

Mercy and husband Jonathan Harrison

Miles who married Hannah Horton (had has son by name of the child left funds by Wm Jr.)

Jasper (There are an apparent trio of Jaspers in the region at the same time ca 1793-1804: (1) a Jasper with wife Ruth ?; (2) A Jasper with a wife Margaret (based on the name of the step-daughter it is presumed to be Snidow); and (3) the family of a Jasper Terry with wife Mary [presumed Morrison] who have the G-02 group])

Susannah who married brother of Esther Brown, Thomas Brown

Rachel who married John Martin

Jemima who married Ezekiel Boucher and died barely a year later.

One document identifies his wife as "Rachel" and since no marriage records of a William Terry and Rachel in the time frame in the area have ever been found - researchers cast a wider net and found one for a William Terry and Rachel Manson in 1759 in Philadelphia. They disappear from that locale and seem to fit the bill despite the long journey. Colonial roads make a direct connection between Philadelphia and the early Roanoke area (Botetourt region).

When the claim of a Keziah Hale who married a William Terry are examined there is a paucity of records proving any such union took place. There are, apparently, no records of her existence at all! His are equally questionable. Many trees appear to have information inserted to make a match happen.

It is probable that the line of the John Tierry - found on the eastern Virginia, NC, SC and southern realms - came down the eastern seaboard and may connect to that I-01 Haplogroup. That line includes names such as James, John, Champness, Benjamin, Stephen, Nathaniel, a William or two.

The group to which William Terry of Botetourt Co., Va belongs contains a tradition across several lines and generations of names John, William, Miles, Jasper, Josiah, Martin, Thomas.  All names found in the Terry's comprising the large widespread group in Bucks Co., PA.  A group that has a Jasper Terry who married a Mary Hart (whose mother's maiden name is thought to be Miles). This man, along with his inlaws and other family members left Bucks Co., PA and headed down into August Co. Va.

Historical records of the 1740-1760 years reveal the presence of Harts (Thomas, Aron, Miles and others) working alongside that early Jasper and William Terry. Add to this the closer DNA grouping match and it is likely that this is the source of the William Terry as well. A cousin, orphaned child of a dead relative, a troublesome son seeking to make his mark, all provide explanations without evidence but are still viable.

According to the birth date of the Jasper Terry of Bucks Co. (abt 1716) who married Mary Hart, he was possibly a bit older than William (abt 1724).  William in the 1780's is exempted from future taxes due to old age. In that time average death age was aby 40 and if born in 1724 he was mid-fifties when exempted. He dies in 1783 (based on legal documents mentioned his widow). Jasper Terry and Mary may have removed, along with Thomas Hart, to the southeast where it is assumed they died (using the same scale for Jasper as for William he might have died around 1775).

As for a Kezia Hale who is suggested as the mystery wife of William Terry. All the birthdates not supported by other records or family records are guesses (usually based on the belief a person married at a certain age window or would have first birthed a child at a certain age window).  Even the "facts" carved into stone on graves is subject to being wrong.

That being said the only Keziah Hale women found are apparently all taken. They have other husbands for the time period, birth other children or simply do not exist in the right time and place. Plus, they have some documentary evidence to support those relationships, dates, etc. With this "William and Keziah" they appear to be plucked out of thin air to fill a void.

All this brings up back to a mythical William Terry who married a Keziah Hale. Myth it is until some evidence or a solid set of facts are presented to argue for the existence of him and the reality of her and the marriage.

"Show me the evidence!" should be the cry of every family historian. Evidence shared so others can interpret, apply, and mull over previous assumptions or provide counter evidence of a wrong turn in our own assumptions.

Now, with DNA cutting a swath through the forest, the trees are becoming a bit clearer.

Wednesday, June 2, 2021

A TALE OF TWO JASPER (TERRY'S): EARLY VIRGINIA

Naming patterns can be both boon and bane to family research. In the early Terry lines there is a strong tendency to repeat the same names over and over. So William Jasper, John, and Miles appear widely hinting at relationship but seldom clarifying them.

The several JASPER TERRY men mentioned in early Augusta-Botetourt-Montgomery Co., Virginia records are an example. One, where, apparently DNA will provide some long needed guidance in untangling the lines. One group has been clearly identified as having a DNA haplogroup very different from the lines revealed from other Terry groups.

Two sources contribute to the building knowledge that allows these lines to become clear: Terry - Results | FamilyTreeDNA  and FamilyTreeDNA - TERRY Y-Chromosome DNA Surname Project

In addition, several papers exploring the DNA of another Terry group from its immigrant founders into Pennsylvania and beyond - provide significant guidance. 
These are by Richard Tolman, PhD: "Five generations of Terry's Bucks Co., PA" (at TERrys of bucks (29deadpeople.com) and Addendum 1. Analysis of Y-DNA markers – 29deadpeople

The presence of two "I" groups suggests relation - perhaps from a common early set of Terry's? - but not a close or recent relationship. The "I-2" groups show closer relationship and match a group - very large - that came down out of New York in Pennsylvania and then further south and west.
What is being made very clear is that there are gaps in records and many questions. Just who was the family of Jasper Terry who married the alleged Mary Morrison? Where did they come from and when? Just how do the Terry's of Botetourt-Montgomery counties connect with the members of the same DNA in Pennsylvania?
All the records say is that the first mention found to date for a Jasper Terry was in 1744 when he - and many others - stopped at an estate sale at Monohan's and purchased small items (silver buttons, etc.). With him was a William Terry. The records in Kegley's and Chalkley's suggest Jasper (sometimes referred to as Jesper and Gasper) might have been older.
A Jasper and William Terry are assigned to a road building crew in 1753. They both do surveying. Men of both those names - same or their children?- appear on militia lists, serving as witnesses, jurors, etc.

In 1793-1804 - A Jasper Terry and wife Ruth are mentioned in legal records:
1804- They sell lands to John Persinger on Black Run Waters of the Roanoke River in Botetourt Co., Va. Land had been part of a desc'd William Terry's original land grant. All this researcher has found was a transcribed copy of the event. Any witnesses, further clarifications could be helpful.
1804 - Jasper Terry and Ruth his wife, of Montgomery Co., VA sold to Elijah Terry, for cause and consideration 150 acres on Little River. This bargain and sale from Jasper to Josiah was acknowledged in May 1805, ordered to be rendered.
--Montgomery County, VA Index Deed Book 2, 1773-1833.
In 1819, Montgomery Co., VA Will Book 3, pg 121, the will of Jasper Terry, probated July 9, 1819. In this document he names his widow (Margaret Snidow), daughters Keziah Terry Graham, Jeminia Terry Deweese, Karon-Happuck Terry Rose, step-daughter, Susannah Snidow and sons Jonathan, William, Silas, Elijah.

It is clear, then that, unless there was a late life marriage to a Ruth____ and a death unrecorded (Margaret), the two Jasper Terry's are not the same. Until evidence of any of the marriages for a Jasper Terry to anyone are located in Virginia it is an unsolved mystery. 
What is needed is DNA from the descendants of these Jasper's of Virginia to clarify the connections.

In brief:

Terry's of the line of Jasper Morrison Terry> Aaron Bur Terry, sons of Josiah Terry (Mary Lloyd) share a Haplogroup of G-02.

Terry's in the James, Benjamin, and Nathaniel Terry line of eastern Virginia, NC,SC share a Haplogroup of I-01

Terry's from the line of William Terry (relationship proven by court documents) through his son John Terry (Esther Brown) share the same Haplogroup as found in Terry's in Bucks Co., Pennsylvania. Haplogroup I-02.

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